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Old 08-27-2009, 09:29 AM
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The real US unemployment rate is 16 percent if persons who have dropped out of the labor pool and those working less than they would like are counted, a Federal Reserve official said Wednesday.

"If one considers the people who would like a job but have stopped looking -- so-called discouraged workers -- and those who are working fewer hours than they want, the unemployment rate would move from the official 9.4 percent to 16 percent, said Atlanta Fed chief Dennis Lockhart.

He underscored that he was expressing his own views, which did "do not necessarily reflect those of my colleagues on the Federal Open Market Committee," the policy-setting body of the central bank.

Lockhart pointed out in a speech to a chamber of commerce in Chattanooga, Tennessee that those two categories of people are not taken into account in the Labor Department's monthly report on the unemployment rate. The official July jobless rate was 9.4 percent.

Lockhart, who heads the Atlanta, Georgia, division of the Fed, is the first central bank official to acknowledge the depth of unemployment amid the worst US recession since the Great Depression.

Lockhart said the US economy was improving but "still fragile," and the beginning stages of a sluggish recovery were underway.

"My forecast for a slow recovery implies a protracted period of high unemployment," he said, adding that it would be difficult to stimulate jobs through additional public spending.

"Further fiscal stimulus has been mentioned, but the full effects of the first stimulus package are not yet clear, and the concern over adding to the federal deficit and the resulting national debt is warranted," he said.

President Barack Obama's administration has resisted calls for more public spending, arguing that the 787-billion-dollar stimulus passed in February needs time to work its way through the economy.

Lockhart noted that construction and manufacturing had been particularly hard hit in the recession that began in December 2007 and predicted some jobs were gone for good.

Prior to the recession, he said, construction and manufacturing combined accounted for slightly more than 15 percent of employment. But during the recession, their job losses made up more than 40 percent of all US job losses.

"In my view, it is unlikely that we will see a return of jobs lost in certain sectors, such as manufacturing," he said.

"In a similar vein, the recession has been so deep in construction that a reallocation of workers is likely to happen -- even if not permanent."

Payroll employment has fallen by 6.7 million since the recession began.

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Old 08-27-2009, 09:30 AM
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So they just inadvertently admitted to covering up this "real" number. Interesting.
Now that more people believe there is some sort of recovery, thanks to pushing the fake numbers I guess it doesn't hurt to come clean.

You do have to wonder if the 16% is even real. They lied about 9.4%, so why not 16%?
How high is it really?
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:46 AM
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I would put money on it being closer to 20%, maybe even more.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:15 PM
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Usually the real number is 1.5 to 2 times what anyone in government is saying. If they are now leaking 16 percent then it is a goo indicator that the number is in the 24 to 32 percent range. Those are in Great Depression and higher range.
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Old 08-30-2009, 08:13 PM
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yeppers. It is going to get ugly. With UE so high, times harder for many and the govt taking food from the stockpiles to use for fuel or sell on the open market to "try and fund" other things it is going to be a bleak winter and 2010.
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Old 08-30-2009, 08:47 PM
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Yep. Which is why when I was sort of offered a promotion ... more responsibility now and the promotion when the pay freeze is over ... I accepted. It gives me even more job security than I have now. Of course that doesn't stop them from being real bastards and shit canning me, it just means I am that much harder to replace.
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Old 08-30-2009, 09:56 PM
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On a good note, my company is hiring. We're going to double+ in size this year.
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